Congress to Declare “Christmas is Good”
December 11, 2007 by TJM Admin
Can someone please tell me what happened to, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion?”
Here’s the text of H.Res. 847, because you may have not seen just how important your government wants you to feel X-mas is (while your at it, how many falsehoods and logical fallacies can you count?):
“Recognizing the importance of Christmas and the Christian faith.
Whereas Christmas, a holiday of great significance to Americans and many other cultures and nationalities, is celebrated annually by Christians throughout the United States and the world;
Whereas there are approximately 225,000,000 Christians in the United States, making Christianity the religion of over three-fourths of the American population;
Whereas there are approximately 2,000,000,000 Christians throughout the world, making Christianity the largest religion in the world and the religion of about one-third of the world population;
Whereas Christians identify themselves as those who believe in the salvation from sin offered to them through the sacrifice of their savior, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and who, out of gratitude for the gift of salvation, commit themselves to living their lives in accordance with the teachings of the Holy Bible;
Whereas Christians and Christianity have contributed greatly to the development of western civilization;
Whereas the United States, being founded as a constitutional republic in the traditions of western civilization, finds much in its history that points observers back to its roots in Christianity;
Whereas on December 25 of each calendar year, American Christians observe Christmas, the holiday celebrating the birth of their savior, Jesus Christ;
Whereas for Christians, Christmas is celebrated as a recognition of God’s redemption, mercy, and Grace; and
Whereas many Christians and non-Christians throughout the United States and the rest of the world, celebrate Christmas as a time to serve others: Now, therefore be it
Resolved, That the House of Representatives–
(1) recognizes the Christian faith as one of the great religions of the world;
(2) expresses continued support for Christians in the United States and worldwide;
(3) acknowledges the international religious and historical importance of Christmas and the Christian faith;
(4) acknowledges and supports the role played by Christians and Christianity in the founding of the United States and in the formation of the western civilization;
(5) rejects bigotry and persecution directed against Christians, both in the United States and worldwide; and
(6) expresses its deepest respect to American Christians and Christians throughout the world.”
That’s it. I’m movin to Norway. If our government is gonna turn into a theocracy I don’t honestly think that I can live here. This is so obviously a complete violation of the Constitution, that it is not even funny.
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Of the resolutions, #3 is the only one that could even be considered constitutional.
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You’re kidding me, right? Hang on, let me see if this is for real. (A few Googles later.) Egad. It passed with a vote of 372-9 with 50 abstaining. Be sure to send a nice fuck-you letter to Representative Steve King, Republican (go figure) from Iowa, the sponsor of the bill.
Well, that’s enough to make an atheist want to burn down a Christmas tree. This is such a naked, blatant violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
Hey, Nancy Pelosi: you said that there was too much important work to do in the next year for you to waste your time with impeachment hearings. You said it would distract everyone from the very necessary things that the majority needed to accomplish. Is this it? You’re too busy to impeach the tinpot dictator that has taken up residence in the White House, but you’ve got time for this tripe?
Okay, hang on. Let me play the devil’s advocate here for a second… hm, no, wait, the devil wants to punt this one through a window, too.
This is the legislative equivalent of a high-school girl doodling love-you hearts all over her science book. I sincerely wish the teacher would come along and catch her in the act, so that future generations - who must use this same textbook - don’t have to put up with the “I (heart) Jesus” graffiti all over the section on Darwinian evolution.
For those of you that have said the oath to protect the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic, here’s a clue: the domestic ones are sitting right there in Congress. This is nothing less than an assault on the First Amendment. While some would say, “Calm down, Darque, it says that Congress shall pass no LAW, while this is just a nonbinding resolution,” I would like to retort by kicking them in the nads. “What do you think bills become, you sorry sack?” I would ask this hypothetical person as he cries over his lost manhood.
After all, this is more than just a constitutional issue, isn’t it? I see this as a governmental issue, one that strikes at the very heart of our republic. These folks are trying to pave the way to theocracy, without all the messy bloodshed that usually accompanies such coups. They will not succeed. Oh, sure, it looks like they’re already getting their way - what with turning their love-notes to Jesus into House resolutions, and the right-wing blogs heralding this as the crowing of Christianity as the religion of the land - but I say they’re nuts if they think the Constitution is going to roll up and die during my lifetime.
So is it time to start forming a new Continental Congress yet? Is this enough to make people wake up and smell the Taliban? Is it enough to get people to stop this downward spiral before Chuck Norris has his way and science classes are replaced with bible studies in all public schools?
Pitchforks and torches, please, everybody. Angry mob to the right, angry protesters to the left. At this point, if you see how much of a transgression this is against the secularity of our government, if you see how much of a trespass this is against the validity of the Constitution, if you see this as an affront to everything you know about your country, then Google is your friend. Find your representative, find out whether he or she had anything to do with this bill, and if so, send them a note something like this:
“Hello, Mr(s). Religious Nut. Enjoying the holiday season? I discovered that you signed on to House Resolution 847, a blatant affront to the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. You are in direct and clear violation of the Constitution you swore to protect and defend, and you have now become a threat to it. Save your apologies and do the right thing: resign.”
No, no joke. Don’t just nod your head and hit thumbs-up on StumbleUpon and pretend like you’ve accomplished something. Don’t just blog about it. Write to your representative. If they are one of the nine that voted Nay, congratulate them. If they abstained, ask them why they couldn’t be bothered to vote against such a blatantly unconstitutional act.
It is time to act, folks.
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Sorry about the double post, but I thought you guys might want to make use of this. I found a website that helps you find your representative and write him or her a letter: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Sorry, I suck with the whole html thing, so that’s not a link. Just cut and paste the old-fashioned way.
This is the body of the letter that I just sent to my own Representative, John B. Larson (D-CT):
Mr. Larson:
I have discovered that you signed on to H. Res. 847, titled “Recognizing the importance of Christmas and the Christian Faith.” I am appalled by the fact that you have given an “Aye” to this disastrous resolution. It is a brazen affront to the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the Constitution. You took an oath to preserve and defend the Constitution, and here you are voting along with a resolution that, for all intents and purposes, appears to be the groundwork to turn our nation into a Taliban-style theocracy.
This is a mind-blowing breach of the trust I placed in you, Mr. Larson. I don’t know what you were told about this bill, I don’t know if someone told you that it somehow slips by the First Amendment. But I helped put you in office, Mr. Larson, because I expected you to read these bills before you sign them. I voted for you because I expected you to be able to use better judgment than this.
I can assure you, I will not make the same mistake again. I will, in fact, support any measure to remove you from office for this atrocious assault on the secularity of my government. You could, of course, do the responsible thing: apologize publicly for your lapse of judgment and resign to allow someone better qualified to take the oath of office that you have betrayed.
I have heard time and again, from Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi, that moving forward with impeachment hearings against President Bush and Vice President Cheney would be a distraction from the very important tasks that the majority has decided to undertake. Am I to believe that this blatantly pandering love letter to Christians is the important work? This is what is too important to interrupt by trying to save this country?
You should be ashamed.
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And the Christian turd that is America, circles the bowl as it heads inexorably into the black hole of religious theocracy.
Where no light, no thought and no life can endure.
Save me a seat to Norway….
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Darque, while I admire your tenacity and eloquence, I must point out that, in fact, 75% of this nation is indeed Christian (or claims to be). If it were not for that simple fact, this bill would surely not have passed - But since the majority of each and every one of these Representatives’ constituents would have exactly zero problem with this bill, you are probably fighting a losing battle. The simple truth is that people have already become brainwashed, and nothing short of a Civil War is going to change that. Yes, we atheists, agnostics, and Constitutionalists who oppose such a blatant step in the direction of a Theocracy could take to the streets with “pitchforks and torches,” but we would unfortunately be severely outnumbered. We could write letters and emails until our fingertips wore raw, but these Congressmen and women know that, ultimately, the majority of the people they represent would vote in favor of this bill if given the chance. We simply have no recourse in a nation dominated by the Christian mindset. It may be time to move…
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Endorsement? ENDORSEMENT? I don’t need your stinkin’ endorsement of my spirituality or anyone else’s. Your duty is to establish justice, insure domestic calm, provide for the common defense, and promote the general welfare of this country. It is not to pander to last year’s cause celebre, or to try to placate the loudest mouths in our midsts.
This parasitic act is just that: an attempt to keep yourselves valid by sucking the blood from those who you perceive to be the strongest and , therefore, most fearsome animals in the jungle. In doing so, you reveal yourselves to be incapable of generating anything of value in return for your sustenance. You show yourselves only to be afraid, reacting in fear to any hint of the necessity of having to show any real balls.
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Robert: Every once in a while, I start feeling that way, too. But here’s another truth: if given the chance to vote, most of the people living here in the early 1770’s would have voted to remain part of England. The “rebels” were in the minority - and were constantly aware of the fact that of the colonists they lived with, more than seven of ten of them would have turned them in. As Barry Weber illustrates perfectly, even some Christians would indeed be offended by our representatives’ lack of respect for the First Amendment and, more importantly, the secularity of our government.
Then, as now, religious wars abound. As stated in Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion… that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” That was in 1796, which means many of those “founding fathers” were still active in government and in fact signed that very treaty into law. That was a powerful statement: this is not a Christian nation, and has no business in religious wars. For this bill to proclaim this nation, in so many words, as a nation with its roots in Christianity, is an abomination.
In short, yeah, I’m outnumbered here, Robert, I know that. It won’t stop me. Being right is more important than being the majority. And, believe it or not, even with these jerkoffs trying to theocratize my government, I still love this country enough to fight for those freedoms that were guaranteed me - yes, with pitchforks and torches, if necessary, outnumbered a million to one, if necessary. By all means, if it’s not worth fighting for anymore, feel free to go to Finland - egad, I’m tempted to do just that more often than I’d like to admit. But I didn’t spend all this time studying law just to give up now.
If the struggle to keep my nation free and my government secular as it was meant to be is a “losing battle,” then all the more reason to redouble my efforts, speak louder, and rally as much awareness and support as one person can.
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Darque: I was wondering what you would say in response, or whether you would respond at all - And my hat is off to you for a very nice reply. Lately, I have indeed noticed an upsurge in quasi-revolutionary sentiment, and I believe that if the government does not profoundly change and the internet stays unregulated, the people will rise up within the next ten years, possibly sooner. I think that if Ron Paul does not win the Presidency and there is some sort of controversy involved, it will come within the next two. But don’t take it too far too fast, because you will single yourself out and they could come after you for “domestic terrorism” thanks to another affront to our rights. Once the average Joes become aware of what is going on, it will take a little while for them to act - But hopefully it will not be too late! Once they become ready, they will need direction - Who will step up to the plate?
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Has anyone considered a legal challenge? It seems as though this would be of interest to the ACLU…perhaps the Anti-Defamation League…
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We don’t have anything like the level of problem over here in the UK that you have in the Holy American Empire, but, nevertheless, I think you might find this an appropriate response…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GSN_MtvHm8
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Harry Stottle: brilliant, that Marcus Brigstock. I loved his earlier rant against religion (http://richarddawkins.net/article,1440,Can-the-rest-of-us-have-our-planet-back,The-Now-Show-Marcus-Brigstocke) and that one is another home-run. And a good point, too - why do we need Congress to come swooping in to “save Christmas?” Actually, why do we need Scooby-Doo, the Power Rangers, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, KISS, or any of the hundreds of other fictional and non-fictional characters that claim to need to “save Christmas?” Sounds to me like Christmas is already pretty fucking saved. What they really need is for someone to threaten Christmas, just once, for real, so that they can have another four hundred years of crappy “How ______ Saved Christmas” specials.
Their religious holiday is worth an entire week off of work for most folks, begins and ends the entire yearly sales cycle, claims at least an episode annually out of nearly every TV show in the country, is absolutely inescapable for approximately a quarter of every year, and singlehandedly explains over 99% of the entire country’s cases of innocent little kids being forced to sit in creepy old mens’ laps. And they think they need to defend Christmas whenever someone admits that they really don’t like it all. In Congress. With a declaration of support for Christianity.
This is self-victimization writ large. I cannot imagine a grander example of people with a position of such vast and overwhelming privilege constantly claiming to be under imaginary attack. I don’t actually want to attack Christmas. I just want people to shut the fuck up about it for (at least) 364 days a year. To exploit this massive victim complex as an excuse to put H.Res. 847, a shameless attempt at glorifying Christianity, onto Congressional record, is inexcusable, abominable, and unconstitutional. (Not to mention even worse than whining constantly about how their stupid holiday is “under attack.”)
As the song says, “Hey, wait, I’ve got a new complaint.” All this talk about how Christianity is the world’s biggest religion, how Christmas is for Christians, how Christianity is so great, la-de-da… really, what kind of Christianity? Catholicism? Protestantism? Evangelicalism, Mormonism, Presbyterianism, Episcopalianism, Baptism, Anglicanism - what brand, exactly? Because I get my head chewed off nine ways to Sunday every time I try to lump all Christians together. “Oh, we’re not all snake handlers,” “Oh, we don’t all bomb abortion clinics,” “Oh, we don’t all blame the Jews for killing Jesus.” Yet now, they’ve got no problem all of a sudden being all Christians, happy under the same tent, when it comes time for a religion roll-call. They spend lifetimes creating subdivisions within subdivisions within subdivisions to make sure that the only people with whom they actually have to feel any fellowship are the ones from their own church, and yet now it’s all about how Christians are this overwhelming force. You bet I’m going to remember this the next time someone tries that “Oh, we don’t all want to stone non-believers to death in the town square and sell our virgin daughters to angry mobs.” Yeah, right.
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What a bunch of chicken littles for Christ’s sake. They are not making any law about Christmas. The reason this is a good idea is that it recognizes that America is mostly Christian. Why is this a good idea atheists will ask? Well look at the problems they’re having in Europe, They’re being overrun by Muslims. Now I’m not really religious at all but I’d take Fundamental Christians over Fundamental Muslims any day, at least with the Christians you don’t get your head cut off or your vagina mutilated. Run off to Norway and watch in the future as that country will be decimated by Muslims in the future as it is happening to France, and the U.K. now. At least we have a dominant religion here that, although annoying, you can still LIVE with and will provide severe resistance to these Muslim interlopers.
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So, Sotir, you think this junk resolution serves as some sort of defense against the Muslim hordes that are waiting to overrun the country? You think it’s better that we embrace Christians because they don’t mutilate genitalia? You think it’s better we’re overrun by Christians than Muslims? You think you can “LIVE” with Christians telling you how to live your life, how to celebrate holidays, how to have sex, how to raise your children, when to work, when to play, what to put in your body, what to wear, what to say, what to eat, who to love, who to hate, who to believe? Fuck. That. Shit.
Taking sides in anyone’s holy war is foolish and myopic. That’s one of the reasons that a secular government is such a good idea: it insulates the entire nation against intrusions by religious mobs, including Christians and Muslims. As long as there are people like you to see the world as nothing but a game of territorial pissings between religious nuts - which, by the way, is a very popular viewpoint among all three of these abominable Abrahamic faiths - then a non-religious government, making decisions based on reason and logic rather than ancient superstitions is the best defense.
Oh, and “[r]un off to Norway?” We’re back to “if you don’t like it here, then get out of my country” again? How about this: if you don’t like the idea of a secular government - the only kind of government described in the Constitution - then you go to the Vatican, where you can get all your laws and self-righteous bigotry in one place. I’m staying right here to fight off the “interlopers” of any faith.
Muslim, Christian, Jew - all the same. Each one thinks that the whole world is out to get them, and the only way to stop it is to forcefully cram their religion down as many unwilling throats as possible. All of them are, individually and collectively, shackles to a primitive past, full of goblins and witches and ghosts running around inseminating unsuspecting virgins. Keeping them all out of government is a way for us to drop it all and get some actual work done. Erasing them from the planet would be the way for all of us to live our lives in peace.
Saying France’s problems are all the fault of Muslims is about as accurate as saying that Terry Schiavo’s problems were all the fault of a vitamin C deficiency. And Muslims are the only ones mutilating people’s genitals, eh? One word: circumcision. I want an inch of foreskin back, seeing as how it was taken from me without my permission, thanks to a Jewish ritual that was somehow fraudulently passed off as being a necessity for sanitary reasons. Unless you believe that amputating is better than washing, then it was a ritual religious mutilation of genitalia. (And if you do believe amputating is better than washing, then may I remind you that your hands are home to millions of bacteria. Have fun.)
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As a brit I can understand the concerns regarding muslim fundamentalism.
However, christian fundamentalism is also on the rise and is equally dangerous and just a big a threat to our society as any other fundamentalism.
To suggest, as one commenter suggests on this page, ‘Better to be christian fundamentalist than Muslim fundamentalist’, why be any type of fairy tale fundamentalist.
Also, the nonsense about America being such a christian country is rather overshadowed byt the appalling crime rate and level of imprisonment. Surely, if christianity were such an amazingly ‘liberating’ lifestyle and if America actually had 70 per cent odd of it’s population following the ‘christ’ they claim to follow, then America would be heaven on earth.
None of the Abrahamic religions are inclusive. All are exclusive.
All believe the others are wrong. All deny anything but eternal damnation to the others.
And people want to celebrate, identify with and encourage all this by having statements made in a house of government that was intended to bring unity to the people?
All fundamentalism is bad.
No aspect of any fundamentalism is beneficial.
All of them would restrict your rights and FORCE you to live YOUR life by THEIR rules.
And ALL of it based on fairy tales and ‘magic’.
I call all that ignorance.
And America, just like any other country, can choose to reject this absurd behaviour demonstrated by your representatives.
Write to them.
Publicize their responses.
I can assure you that, if your politicians thought they would loose votes, they will soon drop the whole religious stuff.
Their priorities are for their own advancement.
Finally, one small thing.
If you think that christmas is celebrated to such an extent because it is a christian festival you are mistaken.
It is simply the number one profit (prophet) making holiday there is. It is celebrated and kept alive purely for the benefit of business.
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Darque,
You need to lay off the coffee. Please, let me respond to your rant systematically .
So, Sotir, you think this junk resolution serves as some sort of defense against the Muslim hordes that are waiting to overrun the country?
No, I don’t. They’re already over running us.
You think it’s better that we embrace Christians because they don’t mutilate genitalia? You think it’s better we’re overrun by Christians than Muslims? You think you can “LIVE” with Christians telling you how to live your life, how to celebrate holidays, how to have sex, how to raise your children, when to work, when to play, what to put in your body, what to wear, what to say, what to eat, who to love, who to hate, who to believe?
Yes, I do. Christians are the lesser of two evils. With the exception of a few abortion clinic bombings and gay bashings they are relatively tame compared to our Muslim friends. As for Christians telling us how to live our lives, well I don’t know where you live but I am never told or ordered to do anything by Christians. In fact I pretty much live my life the way I choose to, even if I do have to break a few laws here and there which are not religiously based anyways.
Taking sides in anyone’s holy war is foolish and myopic. That’s one of the reasons that a secular government is such a good idea, etc, etc.
Actually, taking sides in any war is probably the best survival tactic any person or government can implement. Do you really think that if the Muslims were to actually rise up and conquer the Christians they would kindly let you be because you are an atheist and didn’t take sides? Let me be clear, I hate Muslims the way you hate religion. These people are hideous in every way possible. I dislike Christians, they’re annoying and self righteous and condescending but yes, I can live with them. As for a secular government, keep dreaming. You should just count your stars you have what you got. With the majority of politicians being Christian in the last hundred years why are we not living under a theocracy now? As for the constitution, well we wipe are asses with it every day. There’s very little of that document that means anything anymore.
Oh, and “[r]un off to Norway?” We’re back to “if you don’t like it here, then get out of my country” again?
No, not at all. This is what the first response to this post was and I have heard this from others as well. If atheists are really that offended by this resolution and the words “In god we trust” on our money then perhaps they would be happier there anyway. But of course they are always welcome in America. By the way, I will Not be at the Vatican, I don’t think they would want me anymore than I would want them. I am NOT religious.
Muslim, Christian, Jew - all the same. Each one thinks that the whole world is out to get them, and the only way to stop it is to forcefully cram their religion down as many unwilling throats as possible. All of them are, individually and collectively, shackles to a primitive past, full of goblins and witches and ghosts running around inseminating unsuspecting virgins. Keeping them all out of government is a way for us to drop it all and get some actual work done. Erasing them from the planet would be the way for all of us to live our lives in peace.
This is just stupid. I don’t even know what to say about this part of your rant but if you think that someday everyone on earth will be reasonable enough to simply walk away from organized religion you are completely deluded. Organized religion will always be with us in some form. It’s better to just accept that fact and choose your battles. Which is basically my point to begin with. Are you really going to get this irate every time you hear the word God or see a Christmas tree? If so, you have a long hard life ahead of you.
Saying France’s problems are all the fault of Muslims is about as accurate as saying that Terry Schiavo’s problems were all the fault of a vitamin C deficiency.
Darque, on this point you are correct. However, I still hate them as a people.
P.S. If you really want your foreskin back visit
http://www.noharmm.org/reversal.htm
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Sure, It’s the coffee’s fault. Couldn’t possibly be that whole Constitution thing, right? Get used to this fact: as long as you continue to advocate a theocracy in this country - Christian, Muslim, or otherwise - you are an enemy of the Constitution, and a threat to the freedom of every citizen of the United States. Our republic is simply not compatible with any kind of theocracy. I will not get over it. I will not just live with it. I will fight it to the death, because that Constitution, complete with the rights guaranteed us and the limitations placed on government, are more important in the long run that any one person’s life.
No, Christians aren’t that much better than Muslims - in most every way, they’re identical, and in many ways, worse. You don’t think they’re trying to control you - which tells me, first and foremost, that you don’t have a uterus. Both Muslims and Christians are united in their belief that women are too stupid to have any control over their own bodies. I can’t live with any theocratic regime that considers half the population to be nothing more than involuntary life support systems for all of Jesus’s little fetuses. Hating and oppressing women - as well as homosexuals, individualists, scholars, scientists, philosophers, and everyone else that doesn’t fit into the mold of their religious perfection - is pretty much the exclusive domain of religion. That is not only incompatible with our Constitution, it is absolutely the opposite of the freedom that we were all guaranteed - all of us, not just white male supplicators that are as willing to roll over and be dominated as yourself.
No, declaring this a Christian nation is not a defense against these imaginary hordes of Muslims waiting to overrun every nation on earth. The defense against anyone trying to overrun our nation is the military - that’s what it’s there for, not for conducting illegal oil wars in Muslim nations and giving them legitimate reasons to want us all dead. Legitimate reasons, like the fact that we’ve been screwing around with their governments for the past century, raping their natural resources just as shamelessly as the settlers that bought Manhattan for a handful of glass baubles. It’s bad enough that our government has done so much harm to the Middle East in its quest to kowtow to the rich and powerful, but to then plant a cross in the middle of the killing field that we’ve turned their nations into is beyond just getting into a holy war, it’s starting a holy war that we have no business fighting.
Of course you’ve heard the “get out of the country if you don’t like it” line before. We all have, ad infinitum, throughout the right-wing echo chamber. It starts all over again every time someone disagrees with their most outrageous bullshit, which is unfortunately decreasingly common these days as people become inured to it. It sure would make life easier for them, in their quest for the United States of Jesusland, if all of us pesky constitutionalists got out of the way, wouldn’t it? Wouldn’t it be easier without us folks waving around that stupid piece of paper like it’s the foundation of our country?
Too fucking bad. It is the source of all law in this country, from Congress all the way down to local ordinances, and without it, this isn’t even a country. Every person in the history of this nation that has ever taken up arms in its defense - from generals to privates, from Coast Guard to police officers, and myself included - has sworn an oath to protect that Constitution.
You may wipe your ass with the Constitution every day, Sotir. Not me. Not everyone. This might be tough for you to see, what with all the Fox News you must be watching to come up with such morally and intellectually bankrupt statements, but there are plenty of people left with the mental faculties to understand not only the importance of preserving that document, but also enough honor and integrity to be mortally offended that you would even say that. It makes my skin crawl every time I hear that treasonous sentiment.
So you want to just roll out the red carpet and turn our White House into a tent revival, and you call my disdain of religions stupid? You invite the rule of people who firmly believe that a dead Jew from two millennia ago will return to bring them all to Sugarland, and you think it’s absurd to look forward to a world governed by people of reason instead of superstition? You believe that in order to preserve the nation, we must forget all about the document that defines our nation? Are you high? Seriously, are you so cataclysmically stoned that this actually makes sense to you, or are you just so completely unaware of the significance of your statements that you don’t realize how absurd they are?
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Sotir,
Before you go thinking that this is “America’s” way of identifying that we are a Christian nation and wrapping its warm embrace around it, you may want to look into House Resolution 635 passed October 2, 2007. It uses pretty much the same wordage as 847.
By the way, this one passed with a vote of 376-0 in favor. Res. 847? Passed 372-9. None opposed the the resolution to recognize Ramadan, but 9 opposed recognizing Christmas?
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A lot of people are talking about packing up and heading to Norway.
I have just one thing to add:
Need any help packing???
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Why? Are you so willing to lend a hand simply because we challenge what you believe? Norway happens to be one of the most secular places on the globe. Crime? Far less than the United States of Corporations. Coincidence? Perhaps.
I do, however, find it amazing that it was those with dissent that founded this once great country. Now, if you disagree with the status quo, you are placed on a watch list…
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Thanks for the offer, Nom. That’s real neighborly of you!
Jesus would be proud,
Rival
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