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Freedom of Religion Just a Myth in USA

April 11, 2008 by AlmightySotir 

Recently in Texas a polygamist “cult” ( cult seems to be code for religion we don’t like) lost over 400 of it’s young female members in government raid.

As reported from The New York Times

On Thursday, a Texas ranger described in detail what occurred last week when law enforcement officers, responding to a call for help from a 16-year-old who said she was being sexually abused in the compound, sought entry.

In the raid, 416 children were removed and placed in temporary state custody on suspicion of being abused or under the threat of abuse or neglect; 139 women voluntarily left the ranch to care for them.

The women and children are at the Fort Concho National Historic Landmark and other temporary shelters in San Angelo.”

Apparently the state believed the girls were being forced into relations with older men resulting in rape and emotional abuse.  Regardless of your personal feelings on this, is this not what the constitution protects?  Who is the state to say that what they’re doing is wrong?  More importantly, why is the state so motivated to break up a religious community?

I believe the state doesn’t like the polygamist lifestyle and is attempting to destroy it completely.  Where was the government when Catholic Priests were raping boys like it was going out of style?   They couldn’t have cared less. The Catholic Religion teaches a one man one woman philosophy, something more in line with the government program.

Is this something that Atheists support? I have to believe that even Atheists would defend that ones spiritual belief is not the province of Government.

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24 Responses to “Freedom of Religion Just a Myth in USA”

  1. Scote on April 11th, 2008 7:41 pm

    "Is this something that Atheists support?"

    Hopefully preventing the forced marriage and abuse of underaged girls is something **people** support.

    This isn't a freedom of religion issue, it is a child abuse issue.

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  2. AlmightySotir on April 11th, 2008 8:08 pm

    A child abuse issue. Really? are you circumcised? Isn't genital mutilation a form of child abuse? Freedom isn't freedom if it isn't applied equally to everyone.

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  3. Scote on April 11th, 2008 8:41 pm

    "A child abuse issue. Really? are you circumcised? Isn’t genital mutilation a form of child abuse? Freedom isn’t freedom if it isn’t applied equally to everyone."

    Exactly why it was right to raid the encampment. To apply the law to the people there just as we do everywhere else. And, yes, I think non-medical genital excisions can be seen as child abuse.

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  4. Scote on April 11th, 2008 8:41 pm

    “Is this something that Atheists support?”

    Hopefully preventing the forced marriage and abuse of underaged girls is something **people** support.

    This isn’t a freedom of religion issue, it is a child abuse issue.

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  5. AlmightySotir on April 11th, 2008 8:49 pm

    It's their religion. Their way of life. That's the way they've done it for a least a hundred years. On what superior moral ground do you stand on to choose the way others should live?

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  6. Scote on April 11th, 2008 8:54 pm

    "t’s their religion. Their way of life. That’s the way they’ve done it for a least a hundred years. On what superior moral ground do you stand on to choose the way others should live?"

    Ok, tell us at what point you think religious freedom may be curbed? Torture? Murder?

    I'm unfamiliar with your blog, so I don't know your positions or style of discussion so I can't tell if you are being serious or Socratic.

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  7. AlmightySotir on April 11th, 2008 9:08 pm

    A child abuse issue. Really? are you circumcised? Isn’t genital mutilation a form of child abuse? Freedom isn’t freedom if it isn’t applied equally to everyone.

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  8. areuhigh on April 11th, 2008 9:25 pm

    You think people should have a right to rape and force underage girls to marry?

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  9. Scote on April 11th, 2008 9:41 pm

    “A child abuse issue. Really? are you circumcised? Isn’t genital mutilation a form of child abuse? Freedom isn’t freedom if it isn’t applied equally to everyone.”

    Exactly why it was right to raid the encampment. To apply the law to the people there just as we do everywhere else. And, yes, I think non-medical genital excisions can be seen as child abuse.

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  10. AlmightySotir on April 11th, 2008 9:49 pm

    It’s their religion. Their way of life. That’s the way they’ve done it for a least a hundred years. On what superior moral ground do you stand on to choose the way others should live?

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  11. Scote on April 11th, 2008 9:54 pm

    “t’s their religion. Their way of life. That’s the way they’ve done it for a least a hundred years. On what superior moral ground do you stand on to choose the way others should live?”

    Ok, tell us at what point you think religious freedom may be curbed? Torture? Murder?

    I’m unfamiliar with your blog, so I don’t know your positions or style of discussion so I can’t tell if you are being serious or Socratic.

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  12. Tony Kw on April 12th, 2008 7:41 am

    We have freedom of religion, which I interpret as freedom of belief. This is rather different from "freedom to do whatever we want if we think it's right."

    Otherwise we have to accept that 9/11 was just a bunch of guys expressing their religious freedom.

    http://www.nobodysthere.com/blog

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  13. Tony Kw on April 12th, 2008 7:41 am

    We have freedom of religion, which I interpret as freedom of belief. This is rather different from "freedom to do whatever we want if we think it's right."

    Otherwise we have to accept that 9/11 was just a bunch of guys expressing their religious freedom.

    http://www.nobodysthere.com/blog

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  14. Tony Kw on April 12th, 2008 7:41 am

    We have freedom of religion, which I interpret as freedom of belief. This is rather different from "freedom to do whatever we want if we think it's right."

    Otherwise we have to accept that 9/11 was just a bunch of guys expressing their religious freedom.

    http://www.nobodysthere.com/blog

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  15. Tony Kw on April 12th, 2008 7:41 am

    We have freedom of religion, which I interpret as freedom of belief. This is rather different from "freedom to do whatever we want if we think it's right."

    Otherwise we have to accept that 9/11 was just a bunch of guys expressing their religious freedom.

    http://www.nobodysthere.com/blog

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  16. Tony Kw on April 12th, 2008 8:41 am

    We have freedom of religion, which I interpret as freedom of belief. This is rather different from “freedom to do whatever we want if we think it’s right.”

    Otherwise we have to accept that 9/11 was just a bunch of guys expressing their religious freedom.

    http://www.nobodysthere.com/blog

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  17. Tom on April 12th, 2008 12:14 pm

    > It’s their religion. Their way of life.

    Yep.

    In my case, I happen to believe in human sacrifice. It's my belief, and the religious group I belong to has been practicing it for hundreds of years. We also believe that rape exorcises demons.

    We're planning another human sacrifice next week.

    I'm glad you believe I should be allowed to follow my beliefs and that the state shouldn't interfere with that or my way of life.

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  18. Tom on April 12th, 2008 1:14 pm

    > It’s their religion. Their way of life.

    Yep.

    In my case, I happen to believe in human sacrifice. It’s my belief, and the religious group I belong to has been practicing it for hundreds of years. We also believe that rape exorcises demons.

    We’re planning another human sacrifice next week.

    I’m glad you believe I should be allowed to follow my beliefs and that the state shouldn’t interfere with that or my way of life.

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  19. TJM Admin on April 12th, 2008 7:26 pm

    Thank you Tom. I know the author of this particular post and we have gone round and round on this topic.

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  20. TJM Admin on April 12th, 2008 8:26 pm

    Thank you Tom. I know the author of this particular post and we have gone round and round on this topic.

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  21. Tom on April 13th, 2008 9:32 am

    You don't have bylines for ANY of the posts on here, so one would assume you have one writer: yourself.

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  22. TomV on April 13th, 2008 9:44 am

    Oh, sorry. I missed the byline at the *bottom* of the posts. I expected them near the top :)

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  23. Tom on April 13th, 2008 10:32 am

    You don’t have bylines for ANY of the posts on here, so one would assume you have one writer: yourself.

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  24. TomV on April 13th, 2008 10:44 am

    Oh, sorry. I missed the byline at the *bottom* of the posts. I expected them near the top :)

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