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By: luis

luis — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:51:21 +0000

why everybody talks about this experiment but nobody gives the reference?

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By: rivalarrival

rivalarrival — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:43:00 +0000

Condor2200:

Yawn.

Anybody with a college education in science who does not just parrot the garbage that the professors lie to us about can see the obvious falsity of evolutionary theory.

In other words, figure out your own damn minds, because you don’t know who’s lying to you. Excellent advice! This is usually referred to as the logical fallacy of Appeal to Authority.

But wait a minute!

I suggest you look at a movie playing now by Ben Stein, one of the smartest men in America

“Ben stein won’t lie to you! Trust him! He knows the truth and he’s willing to share it with you!”

Oops. So much for discarding appeals to authority.

You have no ideas of your own, (or at least you’re not presenting them) and you’re telling us who thinks for you. This is meme-spam.

By: TJM Admin

TJM Admin — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:19:21 +0000

http://richarddawkins.net/article,2394,Lying-for-Jesus,Richard-Dawkins

By: Condor2200

Condor2200 — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:30:45 +0000

Anybody with a college education in science who does not just parrot the garbage that the professors lie to us about can see the obvious falsity of evolutionary theory. The truth is there are plenty of scientists who come to the CONCLUSION that God must exist. They call it Intelligent Design. For example, although he is often quoted by people who use him to disprove God, Albert Einstein actually not only believed in God was is quoted as saying that when he viewed the universe, he couldn’t believe there isn’t one. And we are talking about one of the smartest men who ever lived! Maybe you should rethink calling people who believe in God stupid. Or perhaps pretending to worship a plate of spaghetti so you can smoke more pot is intelligent?
I suggest you look at a movie playing now by Ben Stein, one of the smartest men in America (He wrote speeches for Richard Nixon, for example, and starred on a game show called “Beat Ben Stein” where contestants had to outsmart him to win money). Its called “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” (www.expelledthemovie.com).

By: neckisch

neckisch — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 04:07:24 +0000

Then why call him God?

Lack of a better word, and why do you refer to God as male?

There is no known mechanism for a consciousness to exist eternally.

My point exactly . Its not known at this time. Nobody knows what the future holds or what humans will learn in years to come. Or how long our life span can be with gene manipulation.

By: rivalarrival

rivalarrival — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:38:19 +0000

God doesn’t have to be a supreme being, the cosmos is big enough.

Then why call him god?

Finding oneself without God for eternity would be a kind of hell.

There is no known mechanism for a consciousness to exist eternally. If there is no such mechanism (an afterlife or a spiritual realm of some sort) your argument is gibberish.

The concepts of spiritual realms and afterlives are non-falsifiable. Non-falsifiable concepts cannot be differentiated from false concepts like the Dragon in my Garage.

This being the case, your philosophy has no more merit than any other “religious” theory.

By: neckisch

neckisch — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:24:18 +0000

I don’t think it describes a diminishing God, only because the more we know brings more questions as those questions are answered more questions arise. There is no end. We will never know everything there is to know. All we can do is decrease our ignorance. Even our mathematics has trouble describing some aspects of the cosmos.

God doesn’t have to be a supreme being, the cosmos is big enough.
Like hell is not damnation in fire burning for eternity, where is this fire? Finding oneself without God for eternity would be a kind of hell. Heaven is not in the sky, it could be finding oneself to be with God for eternity.

By: rivalarrival

rivalarrival — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:14:30 +0000

Neckisch,

My point is we don’t know why this happens yet so we can say this is the work of God.

In other words, God exists in our ignorance.

This philosophy describes a diminishing God, one who is most powerful when we are most ignorant. God’s actions would have to become more and more subtle as our own intelligence increased.

What’s more, God would be diminished according to the most intelligent people. Ascribing certain processes to God after they are well understood in science is simply stupidity.

The alternative, of course, is that we admit that we were simply ignorant of certain natural processes, we are still ignorant of other natural processes, and we should do our best to decrease our ignorance.

By: neckisch

neckisch — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:58:57 +0000

I for one can and do find theology and science work together nicely.
Looking at, II Corinthians 3:6 you see even the Bible states the letters of the word will killeth, but the spirit of the word giveth life.

The spirit of the Bible is love and giving I do believe in this concept.
To take the word as infallible is a mistake and takes us down the road of Dogma. After all God could not have written the Bible because it is apparent the authors, of the Bible, didn’t know the earth was round, God does.

I look at the big bang as the moment God became aware of Gods existence and had to create.

A good example of Gods existence is the scientific example of non liner ???( I forgot the complete name of the experiment). Where a proton is split in half and one half (A) is sent down a fiber optic cable 4 kilometers, while the other half (B) is sent down a different fiber optic cable 10 kilometers in a different direction. The first one (A) is made to go through a gate system that is set up at the end of the cable. The (A) proton is manipulated to go through gate B. At the exact same time (A) goes through gate B, the other half (B) goes through gate B set up at the end of that cable and without any manipulation from the scientists running the experiment. This happens 100% of the time. This means that communication can be instantaneous from one side of the universe to the other just by manipulating proton half’s through binary gates.

My point is we don’t know why this happens yet so we can say this is the work of God. One day we will know how it works but those answers will lead to more questions.

God is infinitely bigger then the Bible allows for. I for 1 am in awe of the complexity of God and can not put God into a little book.