Plausible Deniability
July 19, 2007
It’s one of the classic scenes from Hollywood: the black-ops commandos are sent out on a secret mission. If they are discovered, then the government cannot acknowledge them, and will deny any connection with them. Even the President doesn’t know about the mission, so that if he is asked about it, then he will be able to plausibly deny it.
It’s not just a Mission: Impossible scenario, though. This happens every day - for every seemingly rational, seemingly normal Christian believer, there is a wacko somewhere claiming to be Jesus, claiming to know god’s plan, claiming that god told him to kill his children, and so on. And the Christian community at large has plausible deniability, so they will never take credit for the wackos. Instead, we hear the popular refrain: “Don’t lump us all together.”
And, each and every time some lunatic pops up in the national news for having put his baby in the microwave, or having molested a few hundred kids in church, or starting a cult in a compound in Waco, Texas, the Christian community can largely sit back and deny any involvement. They are privileged to be able to say that they had nothing to do with it, that something must have been defective in the individual’s own mind, that such atrocities could never come from a true and genuine belief in god, Jesus, or the bible.
Yet, strangely, those same people seem to have no trouble associating “Islamofascists,” and suicide bombers, and plane hijackers with the rest of the Muslim world.
Even atheists, despite the relative drought of truly evil atheist figures in history, are routinely associated with Stalin.
You can rest assured that if the Boy Scouts suddenly went on a genocidal killing spree, Boy Scout admissions would drop precipitously, as would public opinion. It’s a safe bet that if a large number of podiatrists were revealed to be rapists, podiatry as a profession would suffer. And I feel pretty confident that if every single Greek in the world turned around and killed someone one day, people from southern Europe would be scrutinized very closely.
In fact, if you want a real example, look at absinthe: after just a few examples of people becoming dangerously delusional after drinking absinthe, an international ban was locked down that remains in much of the world to this day.
But Christians are somehow above such uncomfortable associations and connections. It is as if the vast majority of Christians - those seemingly sane, normal folks - create a human shield between the radicals, the messianically deranged, the pedophiles, and the “Christianofascists” from any form of criticism, much-deserved scorn, punishment, or - most importantly - association. Somehow, that shield of normalcy, family values, and morality protects the religion itself from the attention it deserves.
Somehow, we always fall for it when they say, “Oh, that one isn’t representative of the whole.”
Even though their holy book is chock full of hatred, misogyny, bigotry, murder, genocide, infanticide, rape, and even worse, it’s still somehow held up as the paragon of virtue. Even though their god commands them to take slaves, it’s held up as the height of morality. Even though their god commands them to kill their children if they misbehave, it’s held up as the zenith of righteousness. And still we fall for it: “Don’t lump us all together like that.”
Even though their religion spawned the Crusades, we are told that it is a religion of peace and love. Even though their religion hunted down anyone it deemed evil under the Inquisition, we still don’t see it coming. Even though the Nazi swastika was nothing more than a twisted cross, we continue to believe their oft-repeated lies: “How dare you compare us to Hitler?” (Oh, officially: screw Godwin’s law.)
Even though their religion has collectively and individually stifled scientific understanding for millennia, they remain untouched. Even though their religion has officially condoned the obstruction of justice and the protection of child-molesters, we are told that it’s all about being good to our fellow humans. Even though their religion has, time and time again, been revealed as duplicitous, deceptive, corrosive, and in every instance opposed to the general welfare of mankind, we continue to respectfully bow our heads and let them off the hook when they say it: “Christ is love, and we are his disciples.”
ENOUGH.
No longer will I believe them when they say that they shouldn’t all be “lumped together.” If you don’t want to be in the company of killers, rapists, and madmen, then why the hell are you a Christian? That god that you claim is the very embodiment of love was the very same god that has led to more deaths in history than AIDS, the Black Plague, starvation, and cancer combined. That isn’t love - it’s the single most pervasive and insidious and methodical killing machine of all time.
I’ve known for a long time that religion was an insidious influence on mankind, and I had long believed that the rank-and-file believers were just being duped by their preachers, priests, ministers, and pastors. I believed that they were as much the victims as anyone else. But no more - it is no longer possible to ignore the fact that they are not victims, but rather accomplices.
If you’re one of the ones that is using Christianity as your cover story for being a depraved murderer - whether you’re standing before parole boards claiming that god changed your life so that you can get out and kill again, or whether you believe that god told you to go to war in Iraq to kill the heathens - you’re as evil as they come. If you actually believe all this love and light and fluffy-kitten Christianity, then you’re the accomplice of every lady who ever drowned her kids because god told her to - a surprising number of them. Even if you think that those “other” Christians are just crazies, even if you just think that Jesus will save you from your sins, you’re an accessory after the fact to the senseless murder of billions of people. If you believe, on any level, that god is your friend, then you are party to the theft of unimaginable wealth from the peoples of the world. (How else could the Los Angeles archdiocese afford a $660 million payout to the victims of their kiddie-rape?)
It’s time to take the kid gloves off, and stop trying to just concentrate on the leaders of the movement and the worst of the bunch. Let’s start lumping them together. Instead of just blaming the pedophile priest, question the culpability of the parents that dropped their children into the jaws of the propaganda and indoctrination machine called “Sunday school.” Instead of just wondering about the motives of the Jerry Falwells of the world, start pointing at the common guilt shared by all their followers.
No more letting them off the hook just because they were someone else’s pawn. No more trying to distinguish between those who actually commit crimes against humanity in the name of god from those who aid and abet those who do. Deny them their plausible deniability, and subject them to the same scrutiny that they have applied to everyone else for so long.
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It seems like many people join a religion so that they can blame something else for their own personal problems.
The way I see it is this: You kill a person in the name of your higher power, you have killed a person. If you killed a person of your own accord, you still killed someone. People, no matter their belief system, should be punished the same way for their crimes, god or no god.
The nazi swastika was not a twisted cross (not in the christian crucifix sense). It’s an eastern religious symbol derived from a term for well-being.
While I agree fully that christianity (and most religions) are corrosive and insidious it’s not true or fair to make the direct association between nazism and christian symbolism.
Thats all fine and good, but just because they have done something out of ignorance does not make it ok for everyone to do it… seriously rise above the people who lump an entire religion into a single belief.
Ghandi once said ‘I like your Christ not your christian’
I like that, to me it says I don’t care what you believe I care about what you do.
I think somehow we need to find common ground where we can accept our differences and move on. Though in my opinion a lot of this article is completely true, it is aimed at further dividing, and for that I think it is misguided… but hey who am I to tell you how to express yourself. In the end I still enjoyed the read
I’d also add that infanticide by women is actually quite common in primates as well as other animals. Especially when they could be subconciously deemed “unfit” or detrimental to the survival of the existing group. It has been theorized that upwards of 70% SIDS cases are in fact infanticide on the part of the mother. I’m not trying to excuse the behaviour of those hiding behind the hypocritical God shield but I did want to point it out.
I apologize for not being able to provide the relevant link to futher information.
All of that said I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment.
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Demoli: Don’t think it’s fair to associate Christianity with Nazism? Sure, little Adolf was raised as a strict Roman Catholic, but later on in life, he decided to create his own special blend of Nazism and Christianity, called “Positive Christianity,” which espoused the idea of Jesus as a fighter of Jews. I’ll bet it really made a splash with those folks that blamed the Jews for the death of Jesus… or are we still not supposed to talk about that, either? I’m not making a comparison between their symbolism. To be perfectly clear, I’m making the direct connection between their philosophies. I don’t care what their symbols are, I care about their motives and their methods, which are surprisingly alike: anti-secularism, nationalism, and military strength in the name of god. It all comes full circle.
Jrod: I think saying that they’ve pitted their Christ against the rest of the world “out of ignorance” is a little disingenuous - I’m fairly sure it’s just according to the plan. And the more I pay attention to this, the less I see any possibility of a common ground, or of any lasting peace between Christianity as a whole and anything, or anyone else. Their mission is to either absorb the rest of humanity into their fold, or destroy it - history bears this out, and for an example, you can turn to a random page in a Western Civilization textbook and likely find at least one example of monarchies and churches trying to force their vision of god onto their colonies, their enemies, their allies, or each other. It’s a repeating pattern, and to nobody’s surprise, it’s repeating again in the form of the Moral Majority and the “Republican base” and faith-based voters here in the United States. (Hmm… Moral Majority sounds more and more like Positive Christianity, doesn’t it?) And my express intent was not to divide anyone, Jrod. After all, it’s the Christians who keep on saying, “Don’t lump us all together.” I’m just doing them the favor of uniting them under the same banner - even when they try to scatter and evade by not wanting to be “lumped together.”
Aron: I know of the 1977 study by Kukull and Peterson at the University of Washington, which hypothesized (but did not conclude) that the majority of SIDS cases were, in fact, infanticide. It’s a recurring theory, too, one which creeps up in quite a few different places even without solid proof, and it’s still a hotly-contested issue to this day. I also know personally that within the field of forensic science, it is all too common for SIDS-like autopsies to report a cause of death of “obstruction of airway,” which could mean nearly anything. There’s also a trend amongst the doctors, lawyers, and criminal investigators involved to avoid the subject of infanticide unless the signs are too clear to ignore, or unless it happens more than once or twice to a single married couple. It’s a very difficult, perhaps impossible, task to quantify this with statistics, but whether it’s valid or not, it’s a suspicion shared by a lot of experts. (Sorry, I know, totally off-topic, but an intriguing subject.)
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But yeah, funny.
I think that the writer is taking something to an extreme, because we are all too stupid to hear it any other way and start speaking up.
But, you do have people out there thinking that they are drinking the blood and flesh of Christ in communion and that it is not symbolic, and who on the other hand don’t take a look at half of what he mentions.
Being raised Jewish, though I have studied many other religions and have my own religion of choice closest to what I personally believe, I don’t either like the swastika reference. I don’t think it is accurate. It is the reverse of an Indian symbol, but on the other other hand, there were many Christians involved in spreading the Protocols of Zion, which led many people to believe that the Jews wanted to take over the world, at a time when most in Eastern Europe were in ghettos, and was nothing but propaganda to turn against them and label Jews as a race, instead of the religion it was and is. In this way, Jews could be racially ostracized and a Jew converting to Christianity was still a Jew and could be condemned. It is what led to Hitler’s thinking and success, when Germany fell into economic decline and wanted someone to blame.
WAR STOPS BEATING HEARTS!
As was mentioned, the swastika is an Eastern symbol, generally taken as four “L’s”, and as for the “murder of billions” you talk about, there was a study some years ago about the number of people killed in the bible under orders from god, and the numbers that they were given (from the bible) totaled to about 6 million. Of course, there are ample places where it is not mentioned the actual number of dead, and over time, the numbers do definitely start to add up, but the total number is much lower than a billion.
I’m not trying to defend Christianity, I just don’t feel it’s wise to exaggerate when making an argument against something, since even if everything else is true, that single exaggeration will be latched on to by the general population (not just Christians) and will, by extension, discredit the rest of your argument no matter how factually strong it is.
I agree with x, I am an atheist and not trying to defend Christianity, but if you’re going to argue against it, at least make a correct argument. Your almost arguing against yourself by saying that since Christians refuse to lump themselves in with the nuts and crazies that we should do it for them. If you take any single group across the world and across history and you would find extremists, what about White Supremecy? Should African-Americans lash out against the entire white population and accuse us of not “embracing” our extreme members? I think you may have a valid point in there somewhere but it’s not getting across to me.
X: I’m not just including the biblical murders actually attributed to god, but the billions killed by people who seriously thought they were doing the will of god: the aforementioned Crusades and Inquisition, the hundreds of little holy wars that have covered Europe since Rome’s ascension, the Ku Klux Klan, who of course believe that they are preserving their heritage and purity before god, and the abortion doctors killed in the name of god, and the untold number of soldiers that go to god for absolution of the heinous acts that they’ve committed during wartime, and with George Bush maintaining that god told him to wage war in Iraq, that’s not much of a stretch either, and the countless dead from the Black Plague just because the church maintained that prayer, not medicine, would cure them, and those that died of starvation while their local lord feasted with the priests, getting fat from the toil and sweat and death of those that lived under a feudal system not only blessed, but even designed by the church, and the millions that died under the slave trading of colonial and early United States with the explicit encouragement and blessing of the church… I could go on, but I think you get the picture.
X, I don’t think that’s an exaggeration at all, and a survey of any period in history would bear this out. While it would be easy to use this same line of reasoning against other religions, I’m confining myself to the Christian religion, largely influencing only so-called “Western civilization.” I think the numbers of dead from other gods, throughout world history, would quickly reach epic proportions.
Of course, you raise an interesting point: god kills, give or take, six million people in the bible, and he’s still seen as the good guy… Well, that’s an issue for another post, I suppose.
“Even though their religion hunted down anyone it deemed evil under the inquisition” If you are going to fault people for belonging to a particular group for past and current crimes and atrocities, then why are you living in this country? What about slavery, what about segregation? What about any number of horrible things going on in this country? You should be morally outraged at the things “your” country has done, and how can you “plausibly deny” things done in the “name” of our country? It’s just as ridiculous a statement as the one your using. And if you’re from another country then I’m sure there’s still a page of atrocities someone wouldn’t want to be “lumped” in with. Why don’t you move and go live in the middle of the Atlantic….but then again how many lives has the Atlantic claimed? Haha!
Well, TwoMinutes, what if every white man contributed ten percent of their income to white supremacy? Would there be a case for that, then? I would think so.
What if most white folks maintained that it’s just barbaric how other white folks kill other races - and then aid and abet their violent white brethren when the authorities come looking for them?
What if most white folks publicly scorned such extreme behavior as enslaving other races, but still kept slaves themselves?
What if all white folks kept a holy book full of examples of the absolute worst possible extremism, and hailed these mostly-fictional extremists as heroes, even while trying to keep a distance from the same exact behavior in modern contemporaries?
And what if, by “white folks,” we don’t mean people that are born a certain way, but rather people of all kinds who voluntarily give their allegiance and faith over to people who are publicly known to strongly advocate such extremism?
Then we’re getting a little closer to what Christianity is all about.
(Okay, I’ll give you the holy book example) But you’re giving even more examples of why I’m aggravated. In this example, White Supremecy is the extreme and I was using the general white population as the “general christians”. In that scenario your argument doesn’t hold up, the general population of christians AREN’T donating 10% of their income to the extremists because they’re just that…they’re EXTREMISTS. Every group on the planet has them and that fact is never going away. You’re faulting christians for lumping Muslim extremists in with Islam and calling it bigotry…but isn’t that what you’re doing? Why isn’t this post directed at Muslims? Why aren’t you lashing out against them for continuing to “plausibly deny” the actions of the extremists - claiming that they are misinterpreting the religion and twisting it for their own sadistic needs. Most Muslims are outraged at the actions of the extremists and want to take back “their” religion, they’re not going to give up on it just because it’s been twisted and warped. The christian church is the same way. The reason I am so aggravated is that I see so many people argue against “religion” and “god” by using inaccurate arguments about Christians which almost always are actually against catholics. I can’t stress that enough…If we all renounced the groups we belong to (race, country, ethnicity, religion, sex) based on the extreme fringes, then we would all be lonely outcasts on deserted islands. We continue to pay our tax dollars to cities, counties, states, and countries that we disagree with, wasn’t that your first argument (about christians still paying the 10%)….we’re all paying taxes into a system that has been guilty of horrendous attrocities in it’s own right (civil war, native american slaughter..and on and on)….but you’re still paying taxes!! Why not move to Canada or Mexico?
No, TwoMinutes, I’m not proud of those things that my country has done, and rest assured, I’ve got plenty of outrage to go around. This is just one little bit of it. I am indeed outraged by atrocities committed in the name of my country - and, if you want a most obvious example, I have protested and demonstrated and fought and argued against the war in Iraq since before the Bush administration admitted that they were going to do it. If you want to use that argument against someone, try someone who decides to remain silent, just because we’re at war, and it’s not the right time to speak out. If you want to aim that kind of outrage in the right place, look to the people who wave their flags and say empty phrases like “support the troops,” and “fighting for freedom,” even while denying the obvious lapses in judgment that have marked the entire Iraq debacle. But don’t look at me that way, TwoMinutes - I’ve fought against it every step of the way, and I’ve never used patriotism as an excuse for not exposing and showing my contempt for abuses that were done in the name of my country. I’ve done everything that I could think of - and even made up some new ones - in my time, all in the name of being able to say that I’m an American, with a clear conscience.
Compare that to the vast Christian majority that extols the virtues of faith, listening to god, and doing the will of god even when the rest of the world tells you that you’re crazy - and always promises forgiveness from god for any atrocity committed. They have all the tools of extremism right there in their holy book, and they constantly hold up all the hallmarks of extremism as virtues, but as soon as someone decides that the voice of god told them to shoot their three kids, they don’t want to take credit for putting that idea in the person’s head. Oh, but don’t worry, they’ll be there for the parole hearing, talking about how the poor sap has prayed and begged forgiveness from the god that told him to do it.
Oh, no, I never called it bigotry for lumping in Muslim extremists with the rest of the Muslim population. If you absolutely insist on making this about me, then I’ll come right out and say it: Islam is even more violent and sadistic than Christianity, and I have no problem with saying so. In fact, it’s an even clearer example of radicals being hidden and protected and shielded by a population of seemingly normal folks.
The reason I’m not concentrating on Muslims in this particular post is because they pose far less threat to me than Christians. Muslims have their theocratic governments in the Middle East, which amply show the dangers thereof. Christians here in my country are marching headlong into creating a brand new theocratic United States of Jesusland. Muslims are responsible for a handful of attacks. Christians are merrily marching and praying their way into a holy war, and dragging me along with them, ignoring the foundations of this nation while reinventing history to claim that we have always been a “Christian nation.”
And as far as why I don’t move to Canada and Mexico if I don’t like it here - I never responded well to that ludicrous statement when the neocons used it against me. It doesn’t fly from you, either. In the offline, really-real world, I’m finally getting into a position that I can do some good. I’m finally going to be able to exert some influence on things that I see as terribly unjust. I’m going to start correcting things that have been left wrong for far too long - just because people like you have decided that only the absolutely pure of heart can ever do so. Well, I’m not pure, and I’m not perfect, but I’m not going to sit around and let what I see as modern-day atrocities happen, even if you’re content to criticize me for it.
My statements were not meant to be accusatory and implying that you aren’t doing anything, I was trying to make a comparison between being a member of a larger group yet hating what the extreme fringe members are capable of doing. You illustrated my point, you live in this country, you consider yourself an American and yet you hate things being done by this county in the name of “freedom” and in the name of the “United States”. That’s my point about the christian church, my whole family is christian, and while I don’t hold their beliefs I feel very strongly to at least defend them against inaccuracies. The bible I will completely give you…I can’t fathom following a book filled with such vile teaching and imagery as such found in the old testament. But I know my family absolutely despises the abortion doctor killings and similar actions, and when their pastor was found guilty of some pretty heinous things he was immediately and without question booted from the congregation. They also rallied and fought the State Baptist Association for years because they considered it corrupt and “un-godly”, they completely stopped sending their contributions, refused to send representatives, even when that meant they were completely barred from the association (which apparently is some huge thing, like a doctor having his license revoked and no longer being considered a “doctor). Sorry to ramble and rant, you just touched a nerve because I see all the things they do to change the “church” and people always “lump” them in with the extremists once again.
Please don’t throw me in with the neocons, you are completely missing my point. I despise when people say that literally..”why don’t you just move?” My point was simply:
1. You blame every single christian across the board for every extremist action ever committed, simply for belonging to the religion.
2. You can’t see that people could still belong to a group/religion and try to change it from within, in your book once they accept that group/religion they’re automatically at fault and apparently should immediately denounce it.
3. That was my reasoning for using the “why don’t you move” argument. If that was your logic then you should leave the US and denounce citizenship.
4. I didn’t honestly think it, that’s ridiculous, I was trying to make a point.
5. You actually argued for my side, you said yourself you can be an American, dislike the policies and previous/current atrocities, rally against, and still remain an American.
Sorry, I’ll quit now.
The swastika goes back into the upper neolithic, which may account for its widespread cultural dispersion.
It comes in two forms, with arms directed to the right or to the left.
One will see the left-rotating image (counterclockwise, anticlockwise) incised on images of Buddha meditating. This signifies withdraw from waking consciousness. Also, the counter circling symbol stands for extinction or death.
The right rotating symbol stands for coming-into-being. The earliest representations are incised on an ivory bird, perhaps a long-necked, long-billed water fowl. A spirit animal among northern shaman even today.
North American Indian myth speaks of the creator taking a water bird and spinning it in a circle. From this action, all other living beings came into the world.
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“what about White Supremecy?”
Um, the KKK is a christian organization.
As for the swastika being a bent cross…who cares? Hitler was a catholic. The holocaust was a direct result of the christian teachings. You can claim it was an extreme perversion of those teachings, but that just lends credence to the belief that christians are the root of all evil. If their book can be misinterpreted enough to slaughter 12 million people, then it can be misinterpreted enough to justify any evil.
“You blame every single christian across the board for every extremist action ever committed, simply for belonging to the religion.”
Christians blame every muslim for 9/11, so why not? I believe the author’s point was simply: it’s the masses that feed the fundamentalists.
“You can’t see that people could still belong to a group/religion and try to change it from within, in your book once they accept that group/religion they’re automatically at fault and apparently should immediately denounce it.”
By definition, a religion supposedly comes from a divine power. Therefore, it cannot be changed “from within” because the people in that group aren’t afforded that luxury. If, then, you’ submit yourself to being a member of that religion, you don’t have the opportunity to change it and are culpable for all of its actions. You want to change christianity? Leave it. Once enough leave it, it’ll die the death it deserve,
“That was my reasoning for using the “why don’t you move” argument. If that was your logic then you should leave the US and denounce citizenship.”
Why should he have to move? The US is a secular nation based on freedom from religion. The goddamned christians should leave since they hate America so much. They hate freedom and they hate individuality, the cornerstones of our nation, so get out. Go over to the middle east where the rest of their stone-age friends hang and leave us alone.
Alright, folks, this post is up in the Forum. Let’s drag the discussion over there:
http://thejesusmyth.com/tjmforum/index.php?board=2.0
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In response to OneLessGod: Google AdSense isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be as far as relevant advertisement, at least not on this particular issue. Aside from a few recent books, some bumper stickers and t-shirts, Atheism doesn’t have a huge industry tied to it like Christianity does. I laugh about the ads just about every time I stop by the site.
Darque, you’re a great person, and a great friend of mine, and you make a great number of points, yet I feel there are some flaws with your idea.
Mostly, the lumping. I think it should be done in a slightly different fashion. Rather than blame all Christians, try to get every Christian help police and prevent extremists. If they can show every single member of their congregation the idea they feel it should be, a morally iffy message admittedly, but still better than nothing, then there won’t be a problem with extremists.
I would take things a step further, but you can only do that with the Roman Catholic Church the way I started to think of it. I realized it would be a terrible idea. But anyway, rather than having one preacher giving out vague sermons, the Christians really ought to get together and really think about things. This might lead to a vast jump in atheist numbers, but it will also help prevent extremist morality.
Admittedly, this would never happen, and your idea is much simpler and more likely to work.
I’ve just given myself a lot to think on. ‘Scusi.
Darque,
Know what’s the difference between Christians and you???
Christians are sinners which are forgiven.
Jesus can forgive even you and your perversions Darque.
Christian
Christian: There’s a whole host of differences between your average Christian and me. But how can you go around saying Jesus can forgive me of my perversions - I mean, I haven’t even talked about the really good ones here! Tell you what, you go ahead and tell your buddy Jesus to give me a call. Preferably on my cell - he’s omniscient, so he already knows the number, right? And then we’ll see if I can’t “confess” something I’ve done that would make his toes curl.
What can I say? Hedonism is just one of the many services I offer.
I don’t think that the point of this article was to lump Christian crazies together so they could do MORE harm to non-Xtians, but to stop letting them apologize for their OWN heinous deeds by pointing at other Xtian sects. It would also show that Christianity had basically the same roots and that many of the world’s ills have been caused by this religion, ALL of whose adherents worship ONE guy who was supposedly all for peace, love and forgiveness! The point that Xtians tend to lump all Muslims (and all JEWS, roro, there!) together in a negative light, was a good one. They DO! Same holds true for Wiccans, Buddhists, Hindus and so on…
Xtians (inc. Catholics)will bicker and argue “About who killed who” and who drinks blood (Catholics do NOT drink blood, btw…they might get TANKED on wine, tho’!)…but look at how quick the “followers of Jesus” are to slam other religions, and of course NON-believers! They’re a bunch of warts on civilization, as are most religions, and should be wiped out. The Bolsheviks had the right idea.
For crying out loud, this is the 21st Century! Why can’t we accept that the universe HAS no meaning, much less our puny existence on this planet? Why can’t we all be Buddhists, be mindful and compassionate and leave it at that?
If I hear ONE more person bash Catholics, without also pointing out the flaws in their OWN religions (child abuse, battering women, bombing innocent civilians…never MIND exorcism, which I’m not excusing)…I’ll friggin’ EXPLODE!
Most religious dogma, Christian or otherwise, makes NO more sense then Mafiosi, who have their enemies wiped out at the same time they’re getting their kid baptized (then go to confession afterward,)…YOU know the scene I mean, in “The Godfather”! Is it nuts! OF COURSE! Is it MORE nuts than most other religions? NO!
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