Where faith and logic collide…
March 27, 2007
I know where they collide…in the hospital, the ICU, the nursing home, the prayer service, funeral and cemetery. My beloved grandpa died suddenly last week. Well, not suddenly, but sooner than we expected. He was my second dad. I grew up with him right across the field from me, and he was there my whole life. Some people never even really get to know their grandparents, and I know that I am lucky that I was so close to him. That’s why I am having such a hard time now.I was raised Catholic, as my name implies, and while I was going through these past two weeks I was thinking about religion and how I had come to where I am now. I spent over 50 hours in that first week with him so I had a lot of time to think. Now that he is gone, a mere two weeks later, I am finding that I am wishing that I could go back in time. I would choose to go back to when I didn’t have the logic part, only the faith part. I have heard so many people talk about how we are supposed to let our faith help us through. What if there isn’t any faith? I am hoping that I-we-are wrong…that there is a Heaven and I will see my grandpa again. My husband said that if there isn’t a Heaven Grandpa wouldn’t know anyway, but I want that comfort. I want to believe. It’s easier. It’s so easy to sit here and say that God logically doesn’t exist, that there are too many discrepencies. But sitting at the funeral and listening to the priest talk about Heaven, I found myself hoping with ALL of my being that there is one. Until I can once again hold my own and say that there probably isn’t a God, I am going to drop back into the Catholic faith. It’s just easier. Just this once. Like a recovering alcoholic…just one more drink. I am relying on one more prayer. Just one.
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I understand that the catholic church teaches that faith is a gift as you clearly appear to possess!However the knowlege of truth is not infused but learnt by instructions of clerics and catechism only then will you be enlightened to truth and it will help to know, love and serve your God.
How can faith grow if it is not nurtured nor cultivated? How can you love something you have no knowlege of…one must study their catechism and nurture it by guidelines as given by the founder(Christ)to His church to ensure the seed will grow and not have it withered away by any form of obstruction whether internal or external,physical or spiritual and once that faith has proven stability in all adversity it can move mountains!So I hear???
“…the knowlege of truth is not infused but learnt by instructions of clerics…”
Who learned it from instruction of clerics, who learned it from the instruction of clerics, who learned it from the instructions of clerics, who learned it from the instructions of clerics, who learned it from the instruction of clerics, who learned it from the instruction of clerics, who learned it from the instruction of clerics, who learned it from the instruction of clerics, who learned it from the instruction of clerics, who learned it from the instruction of clerics, who learned it from the instruction of clerics, who learned it from the instruction of clerics, who learned it from the instruction of clerics….
Longest game of telephone I’ve ever seen.
Yes, the idea of Heaven is a much more pleasant concept than the idea of “It’s Over”. There’s nothing wrong with indulging fantasy every now and then. Our greatest creations were once nothing more than fantasies.
The religious talk of “moving mountains” yet we don’t see too many mountains floating around. Either nobody on the planet has enough faith to do it, or these are imaginary mountains.
In a fantasy world, moving mountains is a non-event when a person can contemplate the harnessing of thousands of stars to power his intergalactic pleasure yacht.
Ohh dear you again,I’ve tryed to warn you but it seems your pride is greater than your reason so it must be said all will be revealed shortly as for you my lover of lies and hater of truth I will confirm your absurdity with one swift blow to your ideology.Alas, I hope to hear from you again which I’m sure for the proud do not want to lose face in front of an audience even when they wear a bright red grin.Have a nice day.
A prophecy. Thank you for your opinion. Do you have an argument to make?
This was always the hardest part for me as an atheist. Death. Not my own, that won’t be a problem, but the deaths of others. I hate that thought, that realization that it’s most likely over. Never see them again, talk to them, love them.
But. Heaven is also unacceptable, a games pit where memories must be gone for everyone to be truly happy, where they look down on the torment of those that failed, with glee.
It irritates me, Heaven is no true paradise, Hell is no true torment. Yet, fallen irritates me even more. “Yes! Yes! A crack in your armor! Quick! Speak to a priest! Get some speaking in tongues, fire and brimstone, comforting pats on the shoulder!” No, a person at their weakest moment should never be proselytized to. No vultures please.
‘Scusi.
Yes i agree with that Alpha, preying on the weak is as terrible as preying on childern who cant fully, or effecitly, understand or question a religious belife at that stage of their life. the only difference here is that instead of being mentally unable the subject is going through hardship’s which can make humans very easily influenced by the power of sugestion.